From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Dec 05 11:16:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94698 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2005 19:16:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2005 19:16:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2005 19:16:50 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EjLmL-00031s-29 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:13:37 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EjLl1-00030k-Ti; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:12:19 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EjLki-000301-T0 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:11:56 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EjLki-0002zu-J6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:11:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:11:56 -0800 Message-ID: <20051205191156.GB9161@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20051201201215.GT18294@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20051203071906.GO9262@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560512030754r3955ea9fqacb4fdf7e3cdc821@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d17560512030754r3955ea9fqacb4fdf7e3cdc821@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-archive-position: 10829 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "point"? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=dFnCDTnWngqPmK0rVHZQjEkppEkkvMLeYqMjmXsgnrLQfFgdYA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25223 On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 12:54:33PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > On 12/3/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > I've got in! sinxa! > > {farsni} has in fact been used for "object x1 points in the > direction of object x2", so that would work for {le va grana cu > farsni le vu tricu} Doesn't help for the general concept I'm trying to get across, as I thought I had made clear. > So {farsni} for objects indicating, and {farja'o} for agents > indicating, the spatial direction of something. *nod* Useful. Thanks. > > > Page 27 references the book Accelerando > > > > > > lojban.org links to Nick's Lojban pages > > These wouldn't involve {farna}, at least not literally. The first > one is covered by {sitna}. The second one is more like an access > to, so it could be {vorme}. {vorme} is not unidirectional, but > then you can always click on the "back" button, *UGH*. Even for you[1] that's a horrible metaphor. The "back" button does *NOT* make a link bi-directional in any respect whatsoever. If X links to Y, unless someone else who gets to Y by some other means can *see* that X links to Y, the link is strongly unidirectional. Furthermore, the x4 is spurious at best. -Robin [1]: xorxes and I have a long-standing fight about computer-related terminology. I think his creations show a complete lack of understanding of how computers actually function, and he thinks I have a pathological fear of metaphor. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.