From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Dec 03 07:56:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63252 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2005 15:56:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2005 15:56:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2005 15:56:51 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EiZkR-00023b-0Q for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:56:27 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EiZiz-00022q-Du; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:54:59 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EiZig-00022h-Rz for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:54:38 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.199]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EiZid-00022Z-Ir for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:54:38 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so316045wra for ; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.112.3 with SMTP id k3mr1479241wrc; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:54:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560512030754r3955ea9fqacb4fdf7e3cdc821@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:54:33 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20051203071906.GO9262@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051201201215.GT18294@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20051203071906.GO9262@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10825 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: "point"? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=WnBGZtF-Ll9iRaRyWHSR29hwE_t9wRzlyvOnXyC5byCKU5GNwA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25219 On 12/3/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I've got in! sinxa! {farsni} has in fact been used for "object x1 points in the direction of object x2", so that would work for {le va grana cu farsni le vu tricu} > > Bob is pointing at Brenda > > la bab jai sinxa tu'a la brendas > > Expanding: > > le nu gau la bab le degji cu te farna la brendas cu sinxa le nu la > brendas cu [whatever bob was saying about her] Perhaps {la bab cu farja'o la brendas}, with {faja'o} meaning "x1 (agent) points towards/shows the direction of x2". So {farsni} for objects indicating, and {farja'o} for agents indicating, the spatial direction of something. > > Page 27 references the book Accelerando > > lojban.org links to Nick's Lojban pages These wouldn't involve {farna}, at least not literally. The first one is covered by {sitna}. The second one is more like an access to, so it could be {vorme}. {vorme} is not unidirectional, but then you can always click on the "back" button, so: la lojban.org cu se vorme da lo lojbo papri pe la nitcion mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.