From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Dec 30 16:47:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 83615 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2005 00:47:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2005 00:47:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2005 00:47:08 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EsUtm-0005Sh-4F for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:47:06 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EsUsr-0005SM-A0; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:46:11 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EsUsP-0005S2-5P for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:45:41 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EsUsO-0005Rv-Tm for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:45:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:45:40 -0800 Message-ID: <20051231004540.GO4222@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <537d06d005032705071496f143@mail.gmail.com> <20050327180029.GW10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4246F819.6080209@lojban.org> <20050327200806.GX10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d175605032715014e381357@mail.gmail.com> <20051229073151.GX5289@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560512291029q7f6a5083t895853d7fa48dfcd@mail.gmail.com> <20051229213244.GP4222@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560512300640n3b55ab8do25f3200f606f50c2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d17560512300640n3b55ab8do25f3200f606f50c2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-archive-position: 10984 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: New to Lojban and a question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=FRPCmTdhJWfOfLdiJYGeYvtdkqUyPagwkcZtFPLVZtibEDtOrA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25382 On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 11:40:38AM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > On 12/29/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 03:29:51PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > > ({satci} might also be related, but it has a somewhat odd > > > place structure.) > > > > Yes, I find {satci} quite confusing, but let me try: > > > > ko zengau le do pu ve skicu lo ka satci ?? ?? > > > > No idea what in the x2 and x3. I guess "lo se djica be mi" and > > "lo ka tcila" ?? Very odd place structure. > > But then I would ask you {ko zengau lo se djica be do lo ka satci > lo se djica be mi} and we risk getting into an infinite loop. :) Yes, exactly. > The x3 of {satci} makes perfect sense to me, it follows the usual > lojbanic pattern "x1 is XXXXX in property/aspect x2" found in lots > of other words. But the x2 is a mystery, and the worse part is > that it gets in the way of the x3, so it can't be easily ignored. Yup. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.