From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Dec 09 10:27:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6987 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2005 18:26:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Dec 2005 18:26:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2005 18:26:59 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Ekml4-00088v-8K for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:14:14 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EkmjF-00087L-Ry; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:12:23 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Ekmj7-00087B-DQ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:12:13 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Ekmj5-000870-GF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:12:13 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so229652wra for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.83.13 with SMTP id g13mr5104641wrb; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:11:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560512091011o29a08690n262cb8cc2eb2437c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:11:29 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20051209063110.A51213@mail.sksys.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051208071730.GY25496@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4398939A.1090806@lojban.org> <20051209012929.GD2106@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <1E7AC75C-B8B7-4749-ADA5-F5FBF8CC4C44@mac.com> <20051209063110.A51213@mail.sksys.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10861 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A Proposed Explanation of {gunma} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=Xdr5oXLpbjQefJ7h6d6LZ018hlLycup8Mul9xOAL_rsKnYmQ7w X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25256 On 12/9/05, Cyril Slobin wrote: > On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Kevin Reid wrote: > > > I have thought that the most sensible explanation is that the x2 of {gunma} > > is a set. > > So, how do you translate "Proletaries of all countries, unite!"? > > My version was {doi gunka pe ro gugde ko se gunma}, but this seems to be > incompatible with your version of {gunma}. Your suggestion? Presumably {doi gunka pe ro gugde lu'i ko se gunma} or {doi gunka pe ro gugde lu'o ko gunma}, although if {gunma} is just a type of reference conversion it is hard to imagine how anybody could possibly fail to obey such a command. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.