From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Dec 02 22:51:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 62598 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2005 06:51:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2005 06:51:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2005 06:51:03 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EiREb-0002mR-VC for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:51:02 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EiRDL-0002lL-Pn; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:49:45 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EiRD3-0002lA-GH for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:49:25 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EiRD3-0002l3-8O for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:49:25 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:49:25 -0800 Message-ID: <20051203064925.GL9262@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20051201201215.GT18294@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <438F71BA.9000507@kli.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <438F71BA.9000507@kli.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-archive-position: 10822 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "point"? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=BCS4n-OV-LcY2GEZxhHI4XaBjCHhODRakjhIvRhIBqjZe4t-rg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25216 On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:57:14PM -0500, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > This is for Zendo, isn't it? :) Yes. > Something with farna? X te farna Y probably, with the unfilled > space being the "pointing direction". No, really not. "X is east of Y" is very different from "X is oriented in a way to bring attention to/point to/indicate/point at Y". Very different. > With people it might want tanruing with degji or something. That still doesn't give me the indicating aspect. > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >I've noticed a lack in Lojban of a word for "pointing" in the > >most general sense. Or, in fact, in many of its more specific > >sense. > > > >What I'm looking for is the concept that underlies the following: > > > > Bob is pointing at Brenda > > > > Page 27 references the book Accelerando > > This is more srana. This is a very different kind of pointing. I > might almost go with "te tavla", as it's a sort of subject matter. > > > That stick is pointing at that tree > > > > lojban.org links to Nick's Lojban pages > > > > > This is different yet again. Maybe even something with lasna? I agree that they are different kinds, but I believe the underlying concept is the same, and it should be expressible in Lojban. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.