From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 05 08:16:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22748 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2006 16:16:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2006 16:16:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2006 16:16:17 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EuXcp-0008Uv-0i for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:06:03 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EuXbI-0008Tk-TE; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:04:30 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EuXas-0008TT-Nk for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:04:02 -0800 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EuXan-0008TG-T3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:04:02 -0800 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C441094781 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:03:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:02:27 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: arj@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <20060105063129.GY3931@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: References: <20060105063129.GY3931@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10997 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Arnt Richard Johansen From: Arnt Richard Johansen Reply-To: arj@nvg.org Subject: [lojban] Re: stage 1 and 2 non-fu'ivla X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=dktNjpLH3y_1cyOumOdDiG8JK9Ld1EuGMeNquTI6AjZe1t0_fA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25396 On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > I don't consider stage 1 and stage 2 borrowings to be fu'ivla, > because to me fu'ivla means "single brivla that is based on a > borrowing from another language". > > How do other people feel about this? Semantic drift. fu'ivla probably just meant "loan word", but now denotes a specific class of brivla. I wouldn't worry about it too much. -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.