From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 05 18:17:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 79765 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2006 02:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2006 02:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2006 02:17:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Euh78-0003pe-BA for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:13:58 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Euh6b-0003p0-Cf; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:13:28 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Euh6C-0003or-HM for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:13:00 -0800 Received: from h-66-134-26-207.nycmny83.covad.net ([66.134.26.207] helo=pi.meson.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Euh69-0003ok-BV for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:13:00 -0800 Received: (qmail 5023 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2006 02:12:55 -0000 Received: from nagas.meson.org (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (1000@192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 6 Jan 2006 02:12:55 -0000 Message-ID: <43BDD227.2010603@kli.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:12:55 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060105063129.GY3931@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560601050431i1eb4186bx69847bbda3144d4e@mail.gmail.com> <43BDAC35.6070505@lojban.org> <925d17560601051750x787d5026p6d3b094271b257a3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560601051750x787d5026p6d3b094271b257a3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 11007 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mark@kli.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Mark E. Shoulson" From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Reply-To: mark@kli.org Subject: [lojban] Re: stage 1 and 2 non-fu'ivla X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=AW1GVTwbryfmNYXMjJPjdkx7CaCRO0QG0lwdpbpaIf3pdRljEw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25406 Jorge Llambías wrote: >On 1/5/06, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > >>Jorge Llambías wrote: >> >> >>> Stage 1 are quoted text, >>>so they are not even borrowings. >>> >>> >>Actually, they are the purist form of borrowing, in that they make use >>of another language without consuming or modifying it in any way. >> >> > >Yes, I have to admit I was thinking of {zoi}, which is to quote foreign >text, not to borrow it, and not of {la'o} which is indeed to borrow, >at least if we accept the CLL example {me la'o ly spaghetti ly} for >"x1 is a quantity of spaghetti", and forget about the ma'oste definition >which says it's for foreign _names_. > You can also do stuff with {me la'e zoi...}. {me la'e} in general has some nice potential. ~mark To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.