From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Jan 09 04:40:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 88133 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2006 12:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2006 12:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2006 12:40:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EvwFa-0005hp-R7 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:35:52 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EvwDY-0005gm-So; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:33:50 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EvwCf-0005gc-Eg for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:32:50 -0800 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EvwCR-0005gU-Ed for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:32:42 -0800 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id d.14.53b4e190 (48600) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:32:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <14.53b4e190.30f3b1db@wmconnect.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:32:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14.53b4e190.30f3b1db_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 52 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-archive-position: 11018 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Subject: [lojban] Re: lojban-list Digest V5 #7 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=Qv9HnjvXbaUp5Ihqj_4ypedlTQQqf-2ltk96oOv8VfCNGXcxsw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25417 --part1_14.53b4e190.30f3b1db_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2006 4:22:02 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > On 1/7/06, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > In more common names, the English names "John", "Jan", "Jane", and "Jen" > > are so packed that Lojbanization loses distinctness. > > I would do them as {djon}, {djan}, {djein} and {djen}, but "John" has > been traditionally lojbanized as {djan}. (There's also {djin} and {djun} > for "Gene" and "June".) > and "Joan"? {djon}. "Jan" and "Jen" are probably the two hardest to differentiate. stevo --part1_14.53b4e190.30f3b1db_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message= dated 1/9/2006 4:22:02 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.or= g writes:


On 1/7/06, Bob LeChevalie= r <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
> In more common names, the English names "John", "Jan", "Jane", and= "Jen"
> are so packed that Lojbanization loses distinctness.

I would do them as {djon}, {djan}, {djein} and {djen}, but "John" has
been traditionally lojbanized as {djan}. (There's also {djin} and {djun= }
for "Gene" and "June".)


and "Joan"?  {djon}.  "Jan" and "Jen" are probably the two ha= rdest to differentiate.

stevo
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