From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 12 09:18:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 58580 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2006 17:18:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2006 17:18:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2006 17:18:37 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ex65r-0005Vg-VK for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:18:36 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ex64S-0005V8-3F; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:17:11 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ex641-0005Uz-MH for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:16:41 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ex63x-0005Ur-EY for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:16:41 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so433102wra for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.141.6 with SMTP id o6mr2803750wrd; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.69.13 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:16:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560601120916w5aad713el1fe27546eb9d28e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:16:36 -0300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11043 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Place Structure Flashcards X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=z3qtdj_GLJfeOBgCkD-kU9eNgBJQlZr9sgaG4zyTraBUbTCntw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25443 On 1/11/06, Matt Arnold wrote: > I just came up with a good idea, although it will at least triple my > number of vocabulary flashcards. I should memorize the place > structures by making individual flashcards for "se klama: destination" > "te klama: origin" "ve klama: route" "xe klama: vehicle" and so on for > each gismu. And of course, this would involve creating the reverse > flashcard to test it the other way around as well. A more efficient way of memorizing place structures, at least in many cases, is by identifying patterns (and exceptions). For example, you don't need to learn the place structure for each animal separately, you just learn that animals have the place structure "x1 is a XXXX of species x2", and then you only need to learn the three exceptions. Also in some cases you can identify patterns in the exceptions. For example, body-parts generally have the place structure "x1 is a/the XXXX of x2", but for some number of them it's "x1 is a/the XXXX of a/the x2 of x3", so you only need to learn which of the two classes of body-part the word belongs to. There are other exceptions too, but still it is easier to learn the exceptions than each word independently. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.