From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Feb 02 06:57:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57229 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2006 14:57:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2006 14:57:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2006 14:57:35 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F4fkZ-0004a3-0G for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:47:55 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F4fiy-0004ZB-IG; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:46:18 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F4fiT-0004Yu-2o for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:45:45 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F4fiR-0004Ym-E5 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:45:44 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so389545wra for ; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:45:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.145.13 with SMTP id s13mr1110239wrd; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:45:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.19 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:45:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560602020645m4546a8f9n4ffd63d7a18a362b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:45:41 -0300 In-Reply-To: <157084884.20060202150114@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <157084884.20060202150114@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11108 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Selbri analogue of {ku'i} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=7KaOktf2G0eTnCwIrOQSs9wHqTGnj90D0Cu0pdxjV9eZ47fa8w X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25513 On 2/2/06, Yanis Batura wrote: > Is there an explicit analogue of {ku'i} in the form of selbri like > this: > > x1 holds true in spite of the facts x2 (set of bridi), by opinion of > x3 > > ? You could use: {ko'a jetnu to'eni'inai ko'e fi'o jinvi ko'i} Or, you could use {nalfanta} for "x1 does not prevent x2 from happening", i.e. "x2 happens despite x1", but that's more for events happening rather than about facts being true. mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.