Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84989 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2006 17:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2006 17:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2006 17:23:09 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FM734-0008K4-Hu for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:23:06 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FM71Q-0008Hw-Vf; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:21:26 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FM711-0008H3-0r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:59 -0800 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FM70x-0008Gu-PF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:58 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so219760nzf for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.37.8 with SMTP id k8mr1698834nzk; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from caroe1 ( [65.218.132.157]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 18sm1186060nzo.2006.03.22.09.20.53; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <070f01c64dd4$de1c9b20$a0d2400a@caroe1> References: <06bc01c64dc3$3be85080$a0d2400a@caroe1> <200603221115.38252.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_070C_01C64DB3.547B76A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-archive-position: 11221 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: betsemes@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Betsemes" From: "Betsemes" Reply-To: betsemes@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A comment on one of my jboselkei translations X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=-nxUG1H79_FNJvOeZPB9RVItCe8HpsEEfieB7LwfO2O-dYmYmQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25631 Content-Length: 3137 Lines: 89 ------=_NextPart_000_070C_01C64DB3.547B76A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So then a better translation would read {mi pu viska lo lunbe nixli pa'o lo= canko be le ragve dinju ca le cabycerni} ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Arnold=20 To: lojban-list@lojban.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [lojban] Re: A comment on one of my jboselkei translations On 3/22/06, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I also didn't think that a past tense tag was necessary because of th= e {ca > le cabycerni} tense sumti. Am I wrong? It isn't necessary. It isn't necessary even without it; tense is option= al in Lojban.=20 Tense is optional in texts written originally in Lojban, but the English = to be translated was asking for it. -epkat ------=_NextPart_000_070C_01C64DB3.547B76A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So then a better translation would read {<= FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>mi pu viska lo lunbe nixli pa'o lo canko = be le=20 ragve dinju
ca le cabycerni}
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Fro= m:=20 = Matt=20 Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12= :27=20 PM
Subject: [lojban] Re: A comment on= one of=20 my jboselkei translations

On 3/22/06, Pierre Abbat &= lt;phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

>=20 I also didn't think that a past tense tag was necessary because of the= =20 {ca
> le cabycerni} tense sumti. Am I wrong?

It isn't=20 necessary. It isn't necessary even without it; tense is optional=20 in
Lojban.

Tense is optional in texts written originally in Lojban, but the= =20 English to be translated was asking for=20 it.
-epkat

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