From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Mar 20 09:32:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46632 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2006 17:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2006 17:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2006 17:32:30 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLOBy-0000Zj-Q8 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:29:18 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLO9s-0000Xe-Q6; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:27:10 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLO9N-0000XR-UR for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:26:38 -0800 Received: from web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.125]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLO9L-0000XI-M7 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:26:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 54679 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Mar 2006 17:26:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20060320172632.54677.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.230.183.14] by web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:26:32 PST Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:26:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17560603200911t1c6a8b2eh3addade8c24d960f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-archive-position: 11182 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic primes X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=j1chYKaLXerCwnuLh7nRMLdd0KryqMv_cp1vMghCsyujqpWvyw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25591 Well, you are the one to bring it up. In this case, what solution do you propose? Is {pritu3} opaque? Do you really want to say that {lo broda cu brode} is true even when {no da broda} holds? And, if so, what does {lo broda} mean? As long as you cannot give satisfactory answers to these questions, I am afraid that {lo} will keep coming up, though I like it probably even less than you do. --- Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 3/20/06, John E Clifford > wrote: > > > le bolci cu drani le tricu lo catlu be > le > > > cmana > > > > {pritu} not {drani}, i.e., wrong right. > > Oops!! :) > > > But this > > does not solve the problem since it is either > > false or nonsense in the situation described: > > there is not, ex hypothesi, such a thing as > lo > > catlu be le cmana. > > I pass from getting drawn into a {lo} thread > again, > thank you. We already know we disagree about > that. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to > secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.