From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Mar 24 07:22:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 89878 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2006 15:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2006 15:22:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 15:22:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FMo76-0007OD-0K for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:22:08 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FMo4v-0007Kv-GR; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:55 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FMo4S-0007Km-Ai for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:24 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.226]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FMo4Q-0007Kf-6B for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:24 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so779249wra for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr611208wrb; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560603240719r61870627q432fa442b0f35a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:19:20 -0300 In-Reply-To: <354.88d7f3.31553c77@wmconnect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <354.88d7f3.31553c77@wmconnect.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11235 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic primes can define anything X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=zSiPuJ8fEmmfDCrfs4p4mN8KvrXFXAtm6hKQifZZhpFNcrxUtA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25645 On 3/24/06, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > And yet this is precisely Wierzbicka's claim: That any and all nonprime > words can be defined completely in terms of the semantic primes that she and > her group are finding and testing. Yes, a very strong claim. Unfortunately, only a few of their definitions seem to be available online (at least I haven't managed to find more than a few scattered examples), so it's hard to judge how successful they've been so far. > A second claim (for which they are seeking counterexamples) is that all > natural languages have the primes. Well, Lojban doesn't seem to have a word for FEEL which covers both sensations and emotions, but then it is not a natural language, and the word could always be introduced as a lujvo or fu'ivla. :) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.