From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Mar 18 10:22:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 45570 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2006 18:22:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2006 18:22:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2006 18:22:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKg4g-0003ZZ-R4 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:22:51 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKg0z-0003UR-Lj; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:19:16 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKg0X-0003U6-9k for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:18:33 -0800 Received: from web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.117]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKg0S-0003Tz-1n for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:18:33 -0800 Received: (qmail 19301 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2006 18:18:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20060318181825.19299.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.230.183.14] by web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:18:25 PST Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:18:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2c2.58fc775.314d3bc3@wmconnect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-archive-position: 11167 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: "right" in simpler terms X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=s_EELDU2aGf_p49TgUUdbocoYua3-5OsF-zQQxpik_mQkGMtXg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25576 Some NSM people tried that with the problem cases: artifacts, colors, and natural kinds, but everybody objected and even Wierzbicka doesn't use it any more. You need something you can get to without having a reliable informant around -- or other things: the paradigm cases are not fairing well for the problem areas again). --- MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/18/2006 4:21:50 AM Central > Standard Time, > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > > > From: John E Clifford > > > Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic primes > > > > > > I assume the problem is with > > {pritu3}, the frame of reference, since I > can't > > imagine a problem with 1 or 2 ("right" is not > an > > NSM prime but I sure don't see off-hand how > to > > specify it in simpler terms). > > > It might be something really simple, like a > convention: > "Right" is the direction most people call > "right". > Keep in mind that lots of people get left and > right confused. > > stevo > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.