From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Mar 20 06:22:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96967 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2006 14:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2006 14:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2006 14:22:53 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLLHS-00058e-IR for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:22:46 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLLG6-000573-QO; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:21:27 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLLFb-00056k-UG for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:20:52 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLLFZ-00056c-Tr for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:20:51 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so1173062wra for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.113.16 with SMTP id l16mr3385203wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.67.10 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:20:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560603200620p545c9378td765419f5bcda51c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:20:48 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20060320134607.26652.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560603200435j11ca8350ie6cd5fda599d2be4@mail.gmail.com> <20060320134607.26652.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11175 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic primes X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=4MvhIKtwdqAwH-wylZ4zpPIWQxJPJSyMH5OXH63uREkkfCy8dA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25584 On 3/20/06, John E Clifford wrote: > All the hypothetical cases "if someone were > looking toward the mountain, then the ball would > be on the tree's right" and so on. That would be: le bolci cu drani le tricu lo catlu be le cmana > There is > apparently no such person and yet the location is > clear. Yes. (As long as you assume that the someone is on the same side of the mountain as the ball and the tree, which would be a natural assumption. You can of course be more precise if need be, at the expense of more wordiness.) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.