From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Mar 21 04:50:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31196 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2006 12:50:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Mar 2006 12:50:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Mar 2006 12:50:20 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLgJN-000716-JE for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:50:10 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLgH7-0006z5-3r; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:48:09 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLgGL-0006yG-5S for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:47:01 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLgGA-0006y7-Ja for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:46:59 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so1253678wra for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:46:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.70.12 with SMTP id s12mr4537420wra; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:46:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.67.10 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:46:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560603210446qf68e69cgabf0a2b2b439ba75@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:46:49 -0300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060320212758.21818.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11190 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic primes X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=llYLA9jj6mA9w2Q2kCQ56VSU6xtro4xIPSKOVaxzwi1A749Q2g X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25600 On 3/20/06, Alex Joseph Martini wrote: > In normal English usage, "on Billy's right" means 'on the same side of > Billy's body as Billy's right hand is'. "To the right of Billy" means > either Billy's or someone else's right side is being used for reference. > Here, the thing being referenced could be on the side with Billy's left > hand, but with the speaker's right hand, if the speaker and Billy are > facing one another. This second case is inherently ambiguous without the > visual context that we would normally have when speaking. So one would be {pritu la bilis ri} and the other {pritu la bilis} with the x3 left to context. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.