From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Mar 25 06:04:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29084 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2006 14:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2006 14:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2006 14:04:48 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FN9Kg-0003Ya-F8 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:01:34 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FN9Hr-0003Wd-5w; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:58:41 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FN9HM-0003WU-Rm for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:58:09 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.236]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FN9HK-0003WN-UU for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:58:08 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so7528wra for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.122.10 with SMTP id u10mr1461619wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.13 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:58:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560603250558n9a59fadr1f2f25d283b6002f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:58:04 -0300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <354.88d7f3.31553c77@wmconnect.com> <925d17560603240719r61870627q432fa442b0f35a7@mail.gmail.com> <200603241811.02886.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11241 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic primes can define anything X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=-srTCHytQDQEfufVmlJVvq-02oKBLdl4WfAfzL52vhF_VWiWUw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25651 On 3/24/06, Alex Joseph Martini wrote: > As I recall, Spanish usually uses {sentir} for feelings and {tocar} for > touching-feeling. Although, I don't think {tocar} is the right verb to > say "it feels rough"; then you might use {parecer} 'seems'. The FEEL of NSM, as I understand it, is the one that refers to passive perception of sensations or emotions, as in "I feel happy" or "I feel cold", not the one that refers to active examination through touching. In Spanish, "sentir" is most often used for emotions but it can also be used for sensations "siento frío", although "tengo frío" (literally "I have cold") is more common. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.