From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Mar 17 04:44:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 97685 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 12:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Mar 2006 12:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 12:44:49 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKEJG-000487-Ht for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:44:02 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKEHT-00046e-Ki; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:42:12 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKEGs-00045u-HE for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:41:34 -0800 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKEGr-00045n-Av for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:41:34 -0800 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id d.2cd.54bcf2d (48600) for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:41:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2cd.54bcf2d.314c0871@wmconnect.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:41:21 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2cd.54bcf2d.314c0871_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 52 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-archive-position: 11156 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Subject: [lojban] semantic primes X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=E4CHXsDBqT4w2GyaRDkcqlYwJfhr324VQpRu2j3IVQuVrdrQsA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25565 --part1_2cd.54bcf2d.314c0871_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/17/2006 4:21:51 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:46:17 -0800 (PST) > From: John E Clifford > Subject: [lojban] Re: organization of Lojban material > > Some of the toepics that are coming up as I > prepare my paper on semantic primes for the > Constructed Languages Conference, seem relevant > to questions about organizing material for > teaching/learning. > > Semantic primes per se are not the first things > one learns as a child, nor are they the things > out of which one builds one's other notions; they > could be but the idea of a prime does not depend > on that. Nor the defining devices using primes > necessarily foundational. I'd like to see definitions of Lojban words in Anna Wierzbicka's Natural Semantic Metalanguage (NSM) terms, as well as definitions of Lojban words in the Lojban version of NSM. stevo --part1_2cd.54bcf2d.314c0871_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/17/2006 4:21= :51 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09= :46:17 -0800 (PST)
From: John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [lojban] Re: organization of Lojban material

Some of the toepics that are coming up as I
prepare my paper on semantic primes for the
Constructed Languages Conference, seem relevant
to questions about organizing material for
teaching/learning.

Semantic primes per se are not the first things
one learns as a child, nor are they the things
out of which one builds one's other notions; they
could be but the idea of a prime does not depend
on that.  Nor the defining devices using primes
necessarily foundational.  


I'd like to see definitions of Lojban words in Anna Wierzbicka's Natura= l Semantic Metalanguage (NSM) terms, as well as definitions of Lojban words= in the Lojban version of NSM.

stevo
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