Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 61660 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2006 19:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2006 19:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2006 19:48:03 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FT2Mi-0001N1-Nx for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:48:00 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FT2L8-0001LM-4k; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:46:30 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FT2Kh-0001Ku-7r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:55 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FT2Kd-0001Kk-Sg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:55 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so924113nzf for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.55 with SMTP id s55mr881716nzg; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.62 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:45:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060409222936.GA26378@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060409222936.GA26378@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 11317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: [nues@chello.at: Sapir-Whorf] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=pC-AzXVg9XfYl7PWC9XNDmgZTSgYmvAiVTII9kYspxmZBPcKMQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25729 Content-Length: 1944 Lines: 60 I presume we are agreed that there is no program of research in place to study Saphir/Whorf effects on Lojban-speakers. I would say that the effect can't be measured until it becomes a living language, and we are now only on the cusp of that. -Matt On 4/9/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Anyone want to take this one? > > Feel free to reply to the author. > > -Robin > > > ----- Forwarded message from Nils Sch?ffer ----- > > Subject: Sapir-Whorf > From: Nils Sch?ffer > To: lojban@lojban.org > Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:08:13 +0200 > > coi la lojbangirz > > I've got a few questions concerning the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. Almost > everywhere you can read that JCB created Loglan in order to 'test' the > SWH. Can this attempt now be seen as successful, or did it fail? Or did > it perhaps turn out that Loglan/Lojban is the wrong instrument to test > it? I know that the strong version of the SWH nowadays is not being > really supported by science, but is it still an issue the > Lojban-community is talking about? > > I couldn't find anything on your sites mentioning this subject, that's > why i wanted to ask you directly. > > thanks in advance for answers, > > Nils Sch?ffer > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.