From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 26 14:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36486 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2006 21:07:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Apr 2006 21:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 21:07:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYrEb-0007DX-0A for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:07:41 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYrDk-0007CH-5E; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:06:50 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYrDJ-0007Bw-Aw for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:06:21 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYrDJ-0007Bp-0x for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:06:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:06:21 -0700 Message-ID: <20060426210621.GG2842@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 X-archive-position: 11338 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: jbovlaste query X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=47RXQDczwKFm3tStOlQXXV1qW9LZqkQiCcmF2gexIbNpF714HQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25753 On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 04:43:48PM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > In my universe, "broken" means "the operator of the device can't > predict whether it is likely to accomplish what it is for at any > given time." Rant follows. That's not what "broken" means in English. http://www.answers.com/broken&r=67 -- the applicable definition is 10: Not functioning; out of order: a broken washing machine. The "technology" and "Hacker Slang" definitions move more in the direction of allowing your usage, but they still clearly prefer mine. Functioning intermittently != not functioning at all; the latter is what "broken" means, unless qualifiers are provided. You did not provide any. Many people use jbovlaste lookups on a regular basis, and it does what they want most of the time. That's not broken. As the admin of a tool, someone saying my stuff is "broken" puts me into hyper "I have to go fix this right now" mode. Having that be spurious is rather frustrating. Furthermore, responding to a report about a single bug in an otherwise working piece of software with a single line just saying that that entire feature is broken is just rude, both because it's false (I can look up "klama" just fine, thank you very much) and because it disparages all the effor that went in to making the system work as well as it does. -Robin To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.