Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 20206 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2006 14:26:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2006 14:26:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2006 14:26:39 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTgIm-0003f4-V6 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:26:37 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTgHz-0003dl-JF; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:25:49 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTgHQ-0003dE-2w for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:25:12 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.235]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTgHN-0003d0-Ki for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:25:11 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so1166292wra for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.144.17 with SMTP id r17mr4778436wrd; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.19 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560604120725o4339d590qb10bc7c4348120b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:25:08 -0300 In-Reply-To: <6875994.20060412155835@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <6875994.20060412155835@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11328 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Is this correct? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=LHIgaG-pWcBL3XWKzk9kNG9ujrljuvOJil3PrlRzCSiGkOr-dw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25741 Content-Length: 1041 Lines: 24 On 4/12/06, Yanis Batura wrote: > ni'o la pitr. djeksyn. no'u la'o gy. Peter Jackson .gy. goi ko'a cu misno ke merko kinzbapre > .i ko'a ba'o zbasu lo'i skina noi la'o gy. The Lord of the Rings .gy. traji lo ka misno kei fo ke'a > > My question is, is such usage of {noi ... ke'a ...} correct in the > sense of "created a set of films, the most famous of which is the Lord > of the Rings" ? Strictly speaking, he created the films, not the logical set of films. Given the films, the logical set of them automatically exists without anyone's intervention. Logical sets are not made. That's why I don't use {lo'i}, it is not really a pluralizer nor a group maker. Probably {lo'i} will end up as a simple plural marker though, given how hard it is to use it as a logical set. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.