Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 66935 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2006 16:06:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2006 16:06:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2006 16:06:32 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTLGZ-0000PT-S5 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:58:56 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTLEv-0000OW-DB; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:57:16 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTLEV-0000O1-Jt for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:56:47 -0700 Received: from smtp.mail.umich.edu ([141.211.14.81] helo=hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FTLES-0000Nt-V8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:56:47 -0700 Received: FROM gyruss.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (gyruss.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.213]) BY hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 443BD1BB.7F23A.22159 ; 11 Apr 2006 11:56:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:56:43 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: alexjm@gyruss.gpcc.itd.umich.edu In-Reply-To: <443BAA59.9000608@lojban.org> Message-ID: References: <20060409222936.GA26378@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <443BAA59.9000608@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11322 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Alex Joseph Martini From: Alex Joseph Martini Reply-To: alexjm@umich.edu Subject: [lojban] Re: [nues@chello.at: Sapir-Whorf] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=zvIirUaEJ1iOeMw0NbwrIr_KtCd8zG4yfdSJFryAYIpNsBYAfg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25735 Content-Length: 1667 Lines: 42 I'm currently studying at U of M, so I did a quick search for Prof Alexis Manaster-Ramer. He still shows up in the directory as as "Visiting Scholar", but I don't think he is here anymore. There are several other individuals who refer to him, but nothing of his in terms of a contact. He does have a contact page on the Wayne State University site. http://linguistics.wayne.edu/faculty/ramer.html and I would venture that his email address at U of M (manaster@umich.edu) is still valid or it wouldn't be in the directory still. mu'omi'e .aleks. On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Matt Arnold wrote: >> I presume we are agreed that there is no program of research in place >> to study Saphir/Whorf effects on Lojban-speakers. I would say that >> the effect can't be measured until it becomes a living language, and >> we are now only on the cusp of that. -Matt > > [ li'o ] > > Recalling where you are located, Matt, several years ago I intrigued > Alexis Manaster-Ramer, a noted UofM linguistics professor in some > research applications for Lojban - not SWH. No idea if he still > remembers us - I'm sure I have the correspondence somewhere on my > computer (I helped him on his Nostratic proto-language research). > He'd be one of the people I would start with if I were trying again to > stir up some interest in research in the linguistics community - but I > don't even know if he is still at UofM. > > lojbab > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.