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Subject: [lojban] Place structure of {fu'ivla}
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I'm looking at the definition in jbovlaste of {fu'ivla} and x4 is unclear 
(which is typical of definitions entered by noralujv). Is it the language the 
word came from, or the form of the word in that language? Which of these is 
correct?:
.i zo skomberu fu'ivla lu finpe da li'u lo lojbo zoi ly. Scomber .ly
.i zo skomberu fu'ivla lu finpe da li'u lo lojbo lo latmo
Or should they both be included?:
.i zo skomberu fu'ivla lu finpe da li'u lo lojbo zoi ly. Scomber .ly lo latmo
(I am ignoring how one would actually write a Lojban definition of 
{skomberu}.)

phma


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