From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat May 06 17:02:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84975 invoked from network); 7 May 2006 00:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2006 00:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2006 00:02:20 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FcWj4-0001tt-3n for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:02:18 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FcWiM-0001c6-BB; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:01:34 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 06 May 2006 17:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FcWhv-0001bv-Ud for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:01:08 -0700 Received: from web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.128]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FcWhu-0001bm-TD for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:01:07 -0700 Received: (qmail 5990 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2006 00:01:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20060507000105.5988.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.230.152.10] by web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:01:05 PDT Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 17:01:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <873029224.20060507065011@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-archive-position: 11417 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: re prenu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=go3MU3byY4IN8BHqfL3qScfVTnOMNhy3XxaUBQ1KVr3PlDJ1tA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25833 At least officially, {re prenu} is equivalent to {re lo prenu} and {lo} is used for distrbutive predication. That is, each carries it separately. I think that that would be the answer on any of the suggested changes in these expressions, if for no other reason than that {re} distributes even the most collectivized sumti, taking them separately. --- Yanis Batura wrote: > And another question. > > {re prenu cu bevri lo pipno} > > Are these {re prenu} carrying the piano > together (as in {loi} or when using {joi}), or > this statement is true for both persons separately? To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.