From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun May 21 18:04:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 97140 invoked from network); 22 May 2006 01:04:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 May 2006 01:04:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2006 01:04:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FhyqB-0007Ee-VZ for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 21 May 2006 18:04:12 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fhym0-0006rt-20; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:55 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FhylY-0006ri-5f for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:24 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FhylU-0006rb-TP for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:24 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so1029632ugd for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.57.11 with SMTP id f11mr1009050hua; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.23.12 with HTTP; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560605211759s500cdb76kdae7425caf46c8f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:59:16 -0300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560605160731j379ecfdbo42862a88433e112c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605200715t32c87d1dpf95ffb3023c95526@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605201618u41770ed9ob343bbe248e22606@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605210914u7d4863b7qbf4a28a5fe3e72ee@mail.gmail.com> <370394AC-290A-404D-BEC7-5466A31BC3C2@umich.edu> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 11651 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:12:4:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=7ySJaA8VJkersbXcTuRaglWFkFial6vtqALVHi1nLzi9m3Ztkw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26069 On 5/21/06, Maxim Katcharov wrote: > > - perhaps {ckini} > would be the proper corresponding gismu for {pe}? {srana} seems to > mean "x1 is about/based on the existence of x2", or "x1 is of interest > in some way to the understanding of x2". CLL gives {srana} for it. That's vague enough, but {ckini} is perhaps excessivley vague, since anything is related to anything else by some relationship, so it would be like no restriction at all. On the other hand, the mere presence of the sumti must pragmatically respond to some relevance, so I suppose {ckini} should work too. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.