From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 16 06:19:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63680 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 13:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2006 13:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 13:19:21 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FfzSJ-0005gi-0Z for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:19:19 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FfzQk-0005eW-MW; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:17:44 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 16 May 2006 06:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FfzQA-0005eG-Nf for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:17:06 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.229]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FfzQ8-0005e9-T3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:17:06 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so1003757wra for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.19 with SMTP id q19mr4994490qbh; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.249.4 with HTTP; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:17:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200605160606.02806.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1147886402.24497.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060515221217.40402.qmail@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200605160606.02806.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 11558 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: "democracy" vs "representative republic" in lojban? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=xS5xck4ab26fKgk-_wUfHRXj80ZdAKgJMpoIMu8A_q2WFpfUkA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25975 On 5/16/06, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 15 May 2006 23:30, Matt Arnold wrote: > AFAICT, it is not the method of electing representatives to the legislature > that preserves individual rights, but the Bill of Rights and the ability to > get a law overturned if it violates those rights. If a majority of states > have a majority of cannibals, then the vegetarians could still get eaten. And > if a majority of representatives are bought out by oil, drugs, and other > special interests, then people's rights get trampled even if they elected > them. How do you say "Balance of Powers"... {vlipa simxu fapro}? To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.