From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 16 16:06:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72946 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 23:06:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2006 23:06:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 23:06:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg8c8-0003u5-Pu for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:06:05 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg8ah-0003sB-3E; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:04:37 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 16 May 2006 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg8aF-0003s2-R1 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:04:07 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.237]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg8aD-0003ru-5b for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:04:07 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so38187wra for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.118.10 with SMTP id q10mr1601001wrc; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.17 with HTTP; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560605161604u234fe121u7a9338e8c4ed9e9e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:04:03 -0300 In-Reply-To: <446A3F84.4000006@v21.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <57995.192.94.94.105.1147732061.squirrel@www.thebranchhearth.net> <446A29E5.2020409@v21.me.uk> <925d17560605161255qed5f1aeu4918d7b322f35bd0@mail.gmail.com> <446A3F84.4000006@v21.me.uk> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11573 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: X-bar, chomsky and lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=7J9ebxMQSKdx8zyRIWMJGYl0m4rAEeCUdxe407KQwtydnQeXwQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25991 On 5/16/06, And Rosta wrote: > > One needs to be complement of the other. I.e. either a LE > takes a KU phrase as complement (with the rest of the sumti > within the KU phrase), or a KU takes a LE phrase as > complement (with the rest of the sumti within the LE phrase). > My intuitions tell me the latter would work better. Because of the syntax or of the semantics? In other words, if instead of lo broda ku le broda ku loi broda ku lei broda ku Lojban had for example: lo broda ku lo broda ki lo broda kau lo broda kai so that the semantic component of the gadri was given by the terminator, would it make more sense to have the initiator as the head? I don't know if X-bar allows the head and the complement to be infixed/circumfixed to each other, but if it does then I think LE.../KU/ should be considered as one element and the inner selbri as the other element. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.