From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 02 09:05:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36827 invoked from network); 2 May 2006 16:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2006 16:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2006 16:05:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FaxN3-0001JV-Cr for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:05:05 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FaxLO-0001HI-0A; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:03:23 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 02 May 2006 09:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FaxKx-0001Gb-4y for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:02:55 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.236]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FaxKt-0001GS-Ux for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:02:54 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so196217wra for ; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.144.4 with SMTP id r4mr813704wrd; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.18 with HTTP; Tue, 2 May 2006 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560605020902o191baa7bw42f8a71e72497455@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 13:02:50 -0300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <159501795.20060502154519@mail.ru> <200605020835.14075.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11361 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: [Chess] square X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=ZN23-nrkPOZ27Oc7u1ELmIFVF3dDwGMsRHK6-_gvabxJ-fSJFg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25777 On 5/2/06, Matt Arnold wrote: > In the chess variant community, where we use several different shapes, > we have taken to referring to them as spaces, cells, points, or sites. Yes, and also other games use triangular, hexagonal, and other shapes for what is essentially the same concept. {kurfa} could eventually be added as a modifier when discussing the standard chess board, but a more general term would be useful. > A brivla or tanru for this might benefit by involving {selci}, "x1 is > a cell/atom/unit/molecule of x2; x1 is an indivisible, most basic > subunit of x2". That's a feature of the chess family of games, in that > their boards are made up of distinct and indivisible locations in some > kind of matrix. A chess piece is located in a cell completely or not > at all. > > I would consider {stuzi}, "x1 is an inherent/inalienable > site/place/position/situation/spot/location of x2 (object/event)" were > it not for what the word list has in the notes: "Generally used for > normally stationary objects/events, to give their 'permanent' > location." Maybe {stuzi} is the whole board, the "location" where the game takes place, and {stusle} is a board cell? Or maybe {kelstu}, {kelstusle}? Also, if {muvdu} is use for "piece", then {selmu'u} could be used for the spaces where the pieces can move to. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.