From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed May 17 08:10:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57405 invoked from network); 17 May 2006 15:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 May 2006 15:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2006 15:10:43 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FgNcX-00035v-3x for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:07:29 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FgNae-00033o-GR; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:33 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FgNaD-00033X-G0 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:05 -0700 Received: from web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.128]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FgNaB-00033N-P1 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:05 -0700 Received: (qmail 15533 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2006 15:05:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20060517150501.15526.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.237.223.173] by web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:01 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-archive-position: 11584 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=3cA53OvI7im4yhlrBSozsIeUgGfYVOfph-N_qzKGlXw6cGTdUw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26002 --- Maxim Katcharov wrote: 3 "now, taking into account not just the twenty bears that are in the context of the conversation, but also bears that are not in the context of the conversation" ("other") 4 "X such that are bears, and such that are both in context and not in context" "...are in context¬ in context" or "...and are both those that we've been talking about and those that we havn't been talking about", if 2 is wrong. Or did I mess that up elsewhere? The move from "the x that are p and the x that are q" to "the x that are p and q" is a normal error on the part of first month Logic students. The correct distribution is to "the x that are either p or q": not that everything in the combined heap has both proerties but that each has one or the other. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.