From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri May 12 08:39:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34490 invoked from network); 12 May 2006 15:39:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2006 15:39:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2006 15:39:05 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeZiy-00052H-6Q for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:38:40 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeZhu-00051h-7A; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:37:34 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 12 May 2006 08:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeZhS-00051Y-TJ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:37:07 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeZhP-00051R-U9 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:37:06 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A63561E85; Fri, 12 May 2006 15:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:37:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20060512134132.8298.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060512134132.8298.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605121137.13626.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 11516 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Subject: [lojban] Re: furry species? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=nlFlf1JvHdjA15D-GCoamheMs6MRg0Ct7yDUMy0yRc5sXzELsQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25933 On Friday 12 May 2006 09:41, John E Clifford wrote: > This gets philosophically murky. A species of > bears is presumably at least a bunch of bears and > of course a bunch of bears can have > (distributively) fur. I've been thinking of species as sets. Sets don't have fur. You could say {lo cribe be roda cu se gacri lo kerfa}, but {lo cribe be roda} sounds like a bear that belongs to all species of bears at once, which doesn't exist. More pedantically, {ro se cribe zo'u lo cribe cu se gacri lo kerfa}. phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.