From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu May 11 11:04:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47022 invoked from network); 11 May 2006 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2006 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2006 18:04:07 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeFSN-0006W8-Eh for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 11 May 2006 11:00:11 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeFQy-0006SS-I7; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:58:47 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 11 May 2006 10:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeFQX-0006SJ-T3 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:58:18 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.229]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FeFQS-0006S8-Jn for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:58:17 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so195419wri for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.80.18 with SMTP id d18mr1239045wrb; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.17 with HTTP; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560605111058h28d11bedj4b89961a30afa28d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:58:10 -0300 In-Reply-To: <44637042.3040302@ropine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560605101635x1702203cu13e8397e3ee956ea@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605101754ibf2c8k435cb516bfee8b32@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605101920o84917e4t99c4dc0b2b9d9b6c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605110956u4dd0b662xffdce093966219b6@mail.gmail.com> <44637042.3040302@ropine.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11494 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Usage of lo and le X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=sTFKxYQVxImoYm3VhardIMocHcFgFhFVqDd9gp1AhPqz8SEGmw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25911 On 5/11/06, Seth Gordon wrote: > Jorge Llambías wrote: > > In most of these cases the referent of "all bears" seems to be kinds. That > > should be covered by {lo ro cribe}, since a kind of bear is an appropriate > > thing to put in the x1 of {cribe}. > > Isn't the kind-of-bear the thing that goes in x2? As a separate thing, yes. But a kind of bear as bear has to go in x1. For example, I don't think you can say: ro se cribe cu se gacri lo kerfa Every species of bear (as a species) is covered by fur. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.