From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 29 05:50:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33817 invoked from network); 29 May 2006 12:50:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 May 2006 12:50:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 May 2006 12:50:08 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fkh96-0000iS-1J for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2006 05:46:56 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fkh7E-0000gT-MC; Mon, 29 May 2006 05:45:02 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 29 May 2006 05:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fkh6n-0000gF-6n for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 05:44:33 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fkh6j-0000g8-BE for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 05:44:33 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so840080ugd for ; Mon, 29 May 2006 05:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.31.18 with SMTP id e18mr360911hue; Mon, 29 May 2006 05:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.21.5 with HTTP; Mon, 29 May 2006 05:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560605290544t3a58abfao57d776ab78393823@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 09:44:27 -0300 In-Reply-To: <01B7E1F7-994C-4BD0-AF93-BF76C06E4D3C@umich.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560605160731j379ecfdbo42862a88433e112c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605270712l6aa155efic0a7482d4ee0ba43@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605271658m1056888dm5385d20dc29df6db@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605271918x535ab3dre73d854264c1549d@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605280905u63d61d78k73da849a8d7856f1@mail.gmail.com> <01B7E1F7-994C-4BD0-AF93-BF76C06E4D3C@umich.edu> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 11688 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:12:4:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=07fiWDoh3CjZDtts5YAsM_aT5LRubEUVpL1JqPY6TpqP_xH_Dw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26107 On 5/28/06, Alex Martini wrote: > > > lu'o le and lu'o lo are very useful concepts, even without > explicit numbers, and there are shorter ways of saying each > > when no number comes between them: lei and loi respectively. > > Is this still true? I'm not quite up to speed on the xorlo changes > per the byfy yet. This is basically true, as a rough description. But you cannot always replace {lu'o le} with {lei}. For example, {lu'o le mlatu .e le gerku} is not the same as {lei mlatu .e le gerku}, because {lu'o} takes the whole connected sumti as its argument. {lu'o le mlatu .e le gerku} would be {le mlatu joi le gerku}. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.