From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 22 18:20:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14461 invoked from network); 23 May 2006 01:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 May 2006 01:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2006 01:20:37 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FiLZa-0002Zn-6z for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:20:34 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FiLXh-0002Wn-Kd; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:18:39 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 22 May 2006 18:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FiLXF-0002We-HK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:18:09 -0700 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FiLXB-0002WW-Q4 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:18:09 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id f1so1293196nzc for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.3 with SMTP id o3mr5147380nzo; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.153.14 with HTTP; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:18:04 -0600 In-Reply-To: <925d17560605221736p1d02db31sb154ed5cc4d0e793@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560605160731j379ecfdbo42862a88433e112c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605211914t5e0167ebx395b8ecbf89b2032@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605220825n5df40f6bs6ea5d63c881dee2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605221615gd0fcb7fj4c97cd7a9275a1b2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605221708q3d88efe8teddf51b3f0e1103c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605221736p1d02db31sb154ed5cc4d0e793@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11664 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: maxim.katcharov@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:12:4:0 X-eGroups-From: "Maxim Katcharov" From: "Maxim Katcharov" Reply-To: maxim.katcharov@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=1HHUd9ey9NBhbyWlquycnQaS-QEiXM4JTfYQMiqS3WRX6iu8og X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26083 I'm having trouble with: lo ro mapku cu melbi gi'e ku'i du'e mei do'e lo nu mi bevri I'm not well versed enough with {du'emei/do'e}, but here's my understanding of it: [lo ro mapku]* [cu melbi] gi'e ku'i []* [du'emei] [do'e lo nu mi bevri] so {lo ro mapku} is melbi and du'emei... du'emei = x1 is a set with too many members x2 x1 being {lo ro mapku} x3 that is added being {do'e lo nu mi bevri}, which seems to be {bevri pe numi} "a carrier related to the event of me". am I confused? Yes. On 5/22/06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 5/22/06, Maxim Katcharov wrote: > > > > I may be a bit confused - why doesn't > > > > ro lo mapku cu melbi gi'e ku'i du'e mei do'e lo nu mi bevri > > > > work here? > > Because it says that each hat was too many for me to carry. > > > This seems to be the problem of masses that John described much > > earlier, how you couldn't really say "all the students surrounded the > > building and wore hats". > > You couldn't say it with outer {ro}, right. > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.