From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 15 19:10:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14984 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 02:10:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2006 02:10:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 02:10:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Ffp1H-0000Fo-Jf for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:10:43 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Ffp0A-0000DL-WC; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:09:37 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 15 May 2006 19:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Ffozi-0000D2-5E for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:09:06 -0700 Received: from mxsf13.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.213]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Ffozf-0000Cu-9C for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:09:06 -0700 Received: from mxip21a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip21a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.151]) by mxsf13.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4G291kO004750 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:09:01 -0400 Received: from 24-247-28-251.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com (HELO [192.168.123.137]) ([24.247.28.251]) by mxip21a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 15 May 2006 22:09:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <57995.192.94.94.105.1147732061.squirrel@www.thebranchhearth.net> References: <57995.192.94.94.105.1147732061.squirrel@www.thebranchhearth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:09:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11551 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Alex Martini From: Alex Martini Reply-To: alexjm@umich.edu Subject: [lojban] Re: X-bar, chomsky and lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=Oj0R3VI-sLjJixW-Bs7zop6xiuFtOpWcVpl3Q7m3uzUgJZmcnA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25969 coi bil. I can't say so for certain, but it seems quite likely that it does. I can't think of any grammatical parts that don't break up into two smaller pieces eventually leading to a specifier/adjunct/complement plus a head. Based, of course, on my limited understanding of the theory from Wikipedia and some knowledge of grammar. My other clue is in the formal definitions of the language. I can't seem to find the original website it's from anymore anymore, but the dictionary I have lists out what parts combine how in a structure that could be pretty easily broken down into a tree. I can email out the PDF if anyone's interested. CLL has a grammar that's more formal and quite a bit less readable. http://www.xahlee.org/lojban/hrefgram/chapter21.html mu'omi'e .aleks. On May 15, 2006, at 6:27 PM, bill@thebranchhearth.net wrote: > Hello All, > > Does anyone know if the Lojban grammar is consistent with the X-bar > theory > put forth by Chomsky. > > As far as we know, all natural languages are consistent with X-bar > at the > deep structure level. > > Regards, > Bill > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.