Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 56772 invoked from network); 10 May 2006 13:39:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2006 13:39:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2006 13:39:26 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FdouO-00018M-68 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 10 May 2006 06:39:20 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fdosm-00016w-N3; Wed, 10 May 2006 06:37:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 10 May 2006 06:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FdosL-00016m-7Z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 06:37:13 -0700 Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([65.77.47.18]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FdosH-00016b-El for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 06:37:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [65.77.47.18]) by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8999FA4C for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 09:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([65.77.47.18]) by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [65.77.47.18]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02028-02 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 09:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [65.77.47.138] (baxter.metacarta.com [65.77.47.138]) by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441FD9FA02 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 09:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4461EC81.2040607@ropine.com> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 09:37:05 -0400 User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051002) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060508152918.17862.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <366115241.20060509075751@mail.ru> <446039DA.40909@gmail.com> <4460B11A.6000300@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <4460B11A.6000300@lojban.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sethg@ropine.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Seth Gordon From: Seth Gordon Reply-To: sethg@ropine.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban Scholasticism X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=7xdyXuFf6oWgQeG92NUu1bREUWCfAwcEgA0cmytCQGVgqbArAQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25874 Content-Length: 1209 Lines: 29 Bob LeChevalier wrote: > I think that is part of the problem. People want to jump from Aesop's > fables, which are a paragraph long, without a standard text so that > people feel more free to take liberties with the wording, and then jump > to novels of great length, often loaded with the sorts of odd uses of > language that would tend to attract Lojbanists (no insult intended to > the Alice translators). > > Athelstan was wise in tackling a Saki short story 16 years ago. There > are plenty of these, they are only a few pages long so they can be > translated much more quickly than a novel, and they are short enough > that a lot of relatively novice Lojbanists would be inclined to try to > read the text (I don't expect that there will be much market for the > Lojban translations of "War and Peace" or "Les Miserables" for a good > while). Someone looking for another intermediate-length project can translate this phrasebook: http://www.zompist.com/phrases.html To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.