From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 15 15:14:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43776 invoked from network); 15 May 2006 22:14:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 May 2006 22:14:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2006 22:14:26 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FflKY-00050N-El for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:14:22 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FflJ4-0004zl-0j; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:51 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FflIZ-0004zS-WD for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:20 -0700 Received: from web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.207.214]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FflIZ-0004zJ-3K for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:19 -0700 Received: (qmail 40404 invoked by uid 60001); 15 May 2006 22:12:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20060515221217.40402.qmail@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.183.100.8] by web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:17 PDT Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1147886402.24497.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-archive-position: 11546 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ryanpatgray@yahoo.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Ryan Gray From: Ryan Gray Reply-To: ryanpatgray@yahoo.com Subject: [lojban] "democracy" vs "representative republic" in lojban? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=7YLMfwuxn5hZI15_UiTn5Scfq1QFLmuxhvpSKr1ZWJ-Wb-A1SQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25963 Hi, I hope someone in this forum can help me use lojban to clarify a point. In another forum, there is a debate about the difference between "democracy" and "representative republic." One faction seems to believe that any form of government that elects its leaders is a "democracy. Another faction (the one I am partial to) argues that, by definition, a democracy does not have any protections for individual rights and the "will of the people" rules the day regardless of whose rights are trampled upon. The argument in this faction is that in a democracy a majority of cannibals could vote to eat a minority of vegetarians. No ones rights would be protected. How would one make this distinction in lojban? Thank you, Ryan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.