From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 16 10:55:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84675 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 17:52:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2006 17:52:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 17:52:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg3iH-0003Dl-B7 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:52:05 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg3fy-0003Ab-Rk; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:49:45 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 16 May 2006 10:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg3fS-0003AS-RY for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:49:10 -0700 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg3fP-0003AL-Kc for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:49:10 -0700 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CFB9478A for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:48:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:48:52 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: arj@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <57995.192.94.94.105.1147732061.squirrel@www.thebranchhearth.net> Message-ID: References: <57995.192.94.94.105.1147732061.squirrel@www.thebranchhearth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11566 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Arnt Richard Johansen From: Arnt Richard Johansen Reply-To: arj@nvg.org Subject: [lojban] Re: X-bar, chomsky and lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=VwyPxmXYPaUEwlEiRjrUg6HpR0WJo2DqObHcp_7BA_uwSX560Q X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25984 On Mon, 15 May 2006 bill@thebranchhearth.net wrote: > Hello All, > > Does anyone know if the Lojban grammar is consistent with the X-bar theory > put forth by Chomsky. I am not very familiar with X-bar theory, but I doubt that zoi quotes or terminators can be captured in any grammatical framework that relies on having a context-free syntax. > As far as we know, all natural languages are consistent with X-bar at the > deep structure level. How about Swiss German, the prime example of context-dependency among natural languages? -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ The names of a species, empire, language, homeworld, homestar and so on will all be self-evidently related; Ogrons come from Ogros, Arisians come from Arisia, Arcturans come from Arcturus, and Humans no doubt come from Humus. --Justin B. Rye in A Primer In SF Xenolinguistics To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.