From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 08 10:47:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 2177 invoked from network); 8 May 2006 17:46:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 May 2006 17:46:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2006 17:46:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fd9od-00060Q-Bh for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 08 May 2006 10:46:39 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fd9n9-0005yP-Oz; Mon, 08 May 2006 10:45:08 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 08 May 2006 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fd9mi-0005xw-UL for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 10:44:41 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.235]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fd9mf-0005xk-69 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 10:44:40 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i34so988868wra for ; Mon, 08 May 2006 10:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.95.4 with SMTP id x4mr1200679qbl; Mon, 08 May 2006 10:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.249.4 with HTTP; Mon, 8 May 2006 10:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 13:44:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 11437 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Japanimation? Lojbanimation. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=V5Z8Xv1S5XxZEQCcYIVCeAhM5SvL5-Mo6E_SgQATpRW0YM53AA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25853 I enjoy dreaming out loud at you about ways to spread interest in Lojban. Why does the Klingon language enjoy such popularity? Because people hear it spoken with subtitles in Star Trek and are captivated by the setting that language creates. Every time I go to a convention, there is usually an anime room. Sitting in there watching the otaku enjoy subtitled animation from Japan, I am impressed by how powerfully this medium spreads a foreign language through other cultures. I think back to the anime conventions I've visited and consider the classes on Japanese that they teach there! An entire subculture exists online, called "fansubbing", for amateur hobbyists to translate Japanese culture into English and other languages before it is officially released. Animation once required prohibitive amounts of time and money. But with the advent of machinima, that's no longer true, if you're willing to settle for relatively crude computer animation. Machinima is a technique for recording a video game while you control it with a joystick or mouse, and then dubbing your own voices onto the action. It's as if the video game characters were being used as puppets. See Wikipedia's entry on Machinima: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinima There now exist programs which exist for nothing but machinima. "The Movies" lets you customize characters, props and backgrounds which you can puppeteer to create your own film. Online virtual worlds such as "Second Life" and "There", while they are used for far more than machinima, are so customizable that they now serve as ideal platforms for it. Google SketchUp is an incredibly easy 3D modeling program that I have learned how to operate. It can be used to create avatars, props, sets and other models to be imported into machinima software. Hence I imagined Lojban's answer to Japanimation: "Lojbanimation" or {lojbo skina}. An ideal source material would be a short story rather than a novel. In it, the characters should have some reason to speak an artificial language, rather than have English speakers inexplicably speaking Lojban instead. Another ideal aspect would be a story released under a Creative Commons license that allows free copying and derivative works. I know of no work that meets all these criteria unless we write one ourselves. The best candidate I know of is "Fossil Games" by Tom Purdom, although it's fully copyrighted. The characters live so long that they learn several artificial languages, so it would be a minor alteration to change the story to have them speak Lojban all the time. The sets are easy to build because they're all either indoors or in an empty Mars-like desert. The story has fascinating political drama, hard science, eye-catching characters, and robot combat. It has a crunchy technological coating and a chewy philosophical center which would pull a viewer into the Lojban mystique and culture. http://www.nemorathwald.com/purdom_fossil_games.htm Much of the work could be distributed among multiple people who become excited about this project. It would require: 1: finding or writing a story. 2: converting it into a screenplay format with dialog and voiceovers. 3: drawing storyboards. 4: translating the script into Lojban. 5: modeling the characters, props and sets in 3D. 6: puppeteering and recording the models in machinima software. 7: recording our voices acting the Lojban script. 8: editing it all together with music and English subtitles. 9: posting it to Youtube and Google Video. 10: submitting the link to BoingBoing.net where my friend Cory Doctorow will blog the $#14 out of it. 11: welcoming the influx of newbies. What do you think? -epkat To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.