From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 20 20:30:48 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FstQE-0002NK-Jx for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:30 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FstQC-0002N8-2q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:30 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id o25so33932nfa for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XpT/e2eZ9LC/AwPCod8MdtlqsLcZPB4pnRFEo1JzKSiVxXzChf1mVTUisr2j9/u2SXqknnJtbcYPNUK+NSJPM6OmElZTBoF5sMUBLgQEpz2ctpTpRs/inVYDsazXMQrE8uRhVvicp0GC20Hmh31gIUMJf9QtUc73QvlB8x5BvWc= Received: by 10.48.43.11 with SMTP id q11mr122318nfq; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.1 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30606202030p74723a2dtbfbeb20fb5904002@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:30:27 -0500 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] flashcards? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 11809 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Is it best to recommend flash cards for the learning of vocabulary? What about the various "immersion" or "absorption" techniques that are supposed to more efficiently use the memory? (I think John Clifford, perhaps, mentioned something about these techniques in a past discussion.) My fear is that flashcards are very inefficient compared to some optimal methods of quick, medium-retention learning. For instance, the SuperMemo site says that people not using some sort of spaced-review system will have a retention of about 80% for new material that they easily comprehend and can fit into an existing framework of knowledge. That's without any review at all. SuperMemo provides an extra 15%, at what seems to me to be a huge cost, with a daily, *boring* review process that doesn't even provide any practice with *reading* Lojban text. Surely we can do better. Maybe something like a very slowly graded series of stories that gradually introduce more and more Lojban vocabulary? (They can be mixed with with the first language, and then switch over to all simple Lojban, or perhaps start out illustrated, and then introduce more and more advanced Lojban.) That's just one wild idea. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.