From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jun 21 14:34:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70425 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 21:34:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jun 2006 21:34:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 21:34:39 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtALJ-0000PH-OO for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:34:33 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtAKA-0000Oe-VC; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:33:24 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtAJk-0000OK-3h for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:32:56 -0700 Received: from mxsf34.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.159]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtAJh-0000OD-5h for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:32:55 -0700 Received: from mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.184]) by mxsf34.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5LLWrVI014985 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:32:54 -0400 Received: from 24-247-28-251.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com (HELO [192.168.123.137]) ([24.247.28.251]) by mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2006 17:32:54 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,163,1149480000"; d="scan'208"; a="1260476715:sNHT18298220" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <20060621154637.36184.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060621154637.36184.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:32:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11818 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Alex Martini From: Alex Martini Reply-To: alexjm@umich.edu Subject: [lojban] Re: ambiguity in lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=oJ3tCEKlxnH3PbN9swcjUq9JOAb-Sm1DkWhhpgPgOY2uxUqVzg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26241 On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:46 AM, John E Clifford wrote: > For most of its history, Loglan/Lojban's claim of unambiguity was > cashed out as claims that 1) the > speech stream was uniquely decomposed into words, 2) the word > string was uniquely parsed and 3)no > words are polysemous. [ li'osai ] Claims 1 and 2 are especially helpful to me as shown in jbofi'e. Lojban is the only language where I know I can automatically generate a gloss of any grammatical discourse and actually pick it apart with my rather basic level of understanding. This is extremely helpful as I'm learning the language, since I can do hypotheticals like "how does it parse if I take out the {bo}?". For comparison, Google's Language Tools is close for natural languages, but it has trouble with complex expressions (surprise!). mu'omi'e .aleks. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.