From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jun 20 16:16:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9987 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2006 22:06:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jun 2006 22:06:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 22:06:17 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FsoMN-0005XW-Fp for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:06:11 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FsoKY-0005Vg-5Q; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:04:18 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FsoJk-0005V9-V4 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:03:29 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FsoJd-0005TH-J4 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:03:28 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so1426838ugd for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.58.11 with SMTP id g11mr3012414hua; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.3 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160606201503m3fa993c2t20d260971d90af7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:03:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7895_11139951.1150841002850" X-Google-Sender-Auth: c26254272fd35145 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 11806 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "komfo,amonan" From: "komfo,amonan" Reply-To: komfoamonan@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Possible error in {binxo} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=be0Sa2SWbolznJR5rO23yBxcjOvlDBQQFH-U8qPjfyzt_G-yXA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26229 ------=_Part_7895_11139951.1150841002850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline coi jbopre I think I found an error in a parenthetical in the definition of {binxo}. First I made a little table of the causality/resultativity values of the four "change" gismu -- binxo, cenba, galfi, stika -- which I include below (Note that the "NO"'s in the Causal column stand for "not necessarily"): Causal Resultative binxo NO YES cenba NO NO galfi YES YES stika YES NO Then I checked the "cf." list for each gismu & found the discrepancy. In the "cf." list for {binxo}, {stika} is listed as non-causal, whereas it's actually causal. I poked around to see if anyone had addressed this & couldn't find a reference to it. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan -- http://laxmahispajispaji.blogspot.com/ ro re'u se galfi de'i li 05 pi'e 30 ------=_Part_7895_11139951.1150841002850 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline coi jbopre

I think I found an error in a parenthetical in the definition of {binxo}. First I made a little table of the causality/resultativity values of the four "change" gismu -- binxo, cenba, galfi, stika -- which I include below (Note that the "NO"'s in the Causal column stand for "not necessarily"):
      Causal  Resultative
binxo   NO        YES
cenba   NO        NO
galfi   YES       YES
stika   YES       NO
Then I checked the "cf." list for each gismu & found the discrepancy. In the "cf." list for {binxo}, {stika} is listed as non-causal, whereas it's actually causal.

I poked around to see if anyone had addressed this & couldn't find a reference to it.

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan
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