From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jun 28 13:13:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 91296 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2006 19:44:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jun 2006 19:44:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2006 19:44:35 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fvfxd-0002jc-MQ for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:44:29 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FvfwD-0002iJ-L4; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:43:03 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fvfvm-0002i8-Cz for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:42:34 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fvfvl-0002i1-EB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:42:34 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so809621nfe for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.59.5 with SMTP id m5mr990130nfk; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.1 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30606281242y68b8291fh2fa172f439b268c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:42:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20060628162627.98817.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2d3df92a0606280532s3c0733d4h83347f4ee05d0ff4@mail.gmail.com> <20060628162627.98817.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 11848 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Chris Capel" From: "Chris Capel" Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: plural markers? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=0bqFPnsufdJMxks7_ibBkMyWd4Mg2pZdRI3K0yiH_i9CK5NyIA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26273 Funny. I interpreted him as saying {mi ta'e cusku} or {mi na'o cusku}, as opposed to {mi pu cusku}. As in, "Yeah, I've been saying the same thing", not "I said that earlier." (And looking back, I don't see where he did.) On 6/28/06, John E Clifford wrote: > Sorry I missed it. It is a fundamental point about Lojban, which gets missed in our Anglocentric > fondness for marked number. > > --- HeliodoR wrote: > > > > So -- context permitting -- the best plural is just the form without > > internal quantifiers at all. > > > > mi cusku lo mintu be di'u > > > > > > mi'e darves > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.