From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Jun 03 18:25:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36957 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2006 01:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2006 01:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2006 01:25:19 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FmhG5-0004AL-Al for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:18:25 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FmhED-00049K-Nw; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:16:32 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FmhDk-000495-UY for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:16:01 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.230]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FmhDj-00048p-4s for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:16:00 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so780712wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.251.12 with SMTP id d12mr2697772qbs; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.237.19 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560606031815w3179c445tc9b750f97931f114@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 22:15:57 -0300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060603162029.74094.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560606031507u3caf439fof06571b7b02e3e6d@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11720 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=DeNYII0lUJDFHX3FpWPrtWkGZbV60OfAMO50oIk-ET9fP3NL1g X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26140 On 6/3/06, Maxim Katcharov wrote: > > Are the relationships "26 students surround the building" and "26 > students wear hats" different in any way? Yes, in the first case the predicate, "surround the building" is applied collectively, and in the second case the predicate "wear hats" is applied distributively. > There is a distinct > difference between how "26 students" is used in the former, and how it > is used in the latter (even if the referent is the same), yes? No, "26 students" refers in both cases to 26 students and it is only used for that, in both cases to refer to those 26 students. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.