From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jun 21 16:04:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 86721 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 22:56:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jun 2006 22:56:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 22:56:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtBZI-0001TH-H9 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:53:04 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtBXL-0001ST-UE; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:51:06 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtBWu-0001SH-1l for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:50:36 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtBWs-0001S9-1R for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:50:35 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id o25so188400nfa for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.14 with SMTP id w14mr1029949nfi; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.1 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30606211550i24387f0fv7dfca878dfd8e630@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:50:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30606202030p74723a2dtbfbeb20fb5904002@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30606202131m29311ab9md30f37ca320ae52c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 11820 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Chris Capel" From: "Chris Capel" Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: flashcards? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=dagoTqNUm94_x_5HWdPEqbg1-sPLDuQkSCZ2dGZGNzdOjHHuog X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26243 On 6/21/06, Alex Martini wrote: > However, if you want to learn Lojban quickly, daily flash card > sessions are the way to go. See, I'm not sure this is true. If you practice daily by reading Lojban text, or doing other sorts of exercises, and make sure that you're exposed to a good round selection of vocabulary, it's my intuition that you will pick up vocabulary more quickly than if you do flashcards or logflash or Supermemo. And I actually used Supermemo with Lojban for about a month. My progress just felt slow, compared to what might be possible with other techniques. Now, maybe flashcards are fine once you already know all the basics, to help you finish out learning all of the cmavo and gismu. Or maybe flashcards really are pretty efficient, just really boring. But they didn't feel efficient. > If you practice regularly with the flash > cards, eventually you should learn them instead of just having them > memorized. At least, I assume so -- I've never drilled regularly with > flash cards. If you use Supermemo, after a year of practicing all of the basic wordlist words, you should have something in the area of a 90%+ lifetime retention. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.