From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jun 30 07:05:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 16324 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2006 13:53:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jun 2006 13:53:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 13:53:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FwJRF-0004DY-E0 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:53:41 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FwJOg-0004C4-Hl; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:51:04 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FwJO8-0004Bk-6k for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:50:28 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FwJO6-0004Ba-CS for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:50:27 -0700 Received: from [192.168.25.19] (unknown [192.168.25.19]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EFDCE4BD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:50:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <737b61f30606291208u116ab072i7d77bc064d346a93@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <737b61f30606291208u116ab072i7d77bc064d346a93@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606300950.03671.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 11854 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Subject: [lojban] Re: do jbopre speak slowly? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=MLYRbxxjXVSC6DSSjaL5k3yOTMdvSTqj5W0lGBxbyMAeTugJxg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26279 I think that there would be differences between Bertcad, Xagvar, and the rural areas, just as there are differences between Boston and Atlanta, or between El Salvador, Mexico, and Argentina. Also when a hick jbopre from a town where pronunciation is muddled tries to talk with a bertcapre, he will probably talk slower than two hicks or two bertcapre. Both sentences and words in Lojban are a bit longer than in English, because of the unambiguous lexing and grammar. This probably doesn't mean that Lojban will be spoken faster, in phonemes per second, because that would result in confusion between similar sounding and meaning words (e.g. noltruni'u/noltroni'u, ratcu/ractu, ko'o/ko'u). phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.