From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jul 08 09:35:04 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 08 Jul 2006 09:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzFlW-0003zD-CV for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 09:34:46 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzFlV-0003z4-B8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 09:34:46 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so206652nfe for ; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 09:34:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rojX3ZWRAuAS1ClvubnNxV5aQ/mlUFIOg59AAun1etaXQHddNC8XPepqahoquWrRdkjwXHIquMgREOR+avGZzPyt+hk/kRLDkmlXv4DPgv99gJwXqkMgzk8vBAZDoyuo+CBnIyE/26iI/0LhDWXZWxpIFk2GYsWzf5wfcFtnpcE= Received: by 10.78.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr1147864hub; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 09:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.13.6 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jul 2006 09:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0607080934o7411e6efi151639c9e7d3c9e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 18:34:44 +0200 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: xalbebna In-Reply-To: <6810593590.20060706212536@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29813_20349260.1152376484015" References: <6810593590.20060706212536@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 11989 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_29813_20349260.1152376484015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > py. goi lo patfu ge'u joi by. goi lo bersa be py. cu zvati lo gusta > As far as I know {goi} doesn't work like this: it's put after the concrete sumti and followed by the assigned letteral. So: goi BY. > B: .a'u doi patfu da jimpe lo du'u de xalbebna kei ta'i ma > You can express these rather metalinguistic B's and P's easily. {by lu [bridi] li'u} is equivalent to "B: [bridi]". Moreover, I think You meant {da jimpe lo du'u da xalbebna}, one realizes that one is drunk. > P: xu do viska ta po'u re ninmu .i ganai ta simlu lo ka vomei ninmu kei > da gi .e'e da xalbebna > {ta} (I may include an 'AFAIK' again) is normally used for objects near to the listener but the speaker not. {tu} is safer. > B: .iku'i .ue doi patfu ta du pa ninmu > :) u'i. Why not use {pamei ninmu}? mi'e darves ------=_Part_29813_20349260.1152376484015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

py. goi lo patfu ge'u joi by. goi lo bersa be py. cu zvati lo gusta

As far as I know {goi} doesn't work like this: it's put after the concrete sumti
and followed by the assigned letteral. So: <sumti> goi BY.

 

B: .a'u doi patfu da jimpe lo du'u de xalbebna kei ta'i ma

You can express these rather metalinguistic B's and P's easily.
{by lu [bridi] li'u} is equivalent to "B: [bridi]".
Moreover, I think You meant {da jimpe lo du'u da xalbebna}, one realizes
that one is drunk.

P: xu do viska ta po'u re ninmu .i ganai ta simlu lo ka vomei ninmu kei da gi .e'e da xalbebna

{ta} (I may include an 'AFAIK' again) is normally used for objects near to the
listener but the speaker not. {tu} is safer.

B: .iku'i .ue doi patfu ta du pa ninmu

:) u'i.
Why not use {pamei ninmu}?
 
mi'e darves
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