From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 17 08:56:33 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G2VSA-0006Ti-AE for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:56:14 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G2VS6-0006TZ-NT for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:56:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217CCEBC33 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:05:10 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72396-07 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:05:08 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8469CEBC30 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:05:08 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from localhost (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0955C15 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:57:19 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:56:05 +0700 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <939496813.20060717225605@mail.ru> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Subject: [lojban] Re: [Anecdote #17] xejykre In-Reply-To: <925d17560607170756v4516e006wdbeb950321c2f0be@mail.gmail.com> References: <347364711.20060717211602@mail.ru> <925d17560607170756v4516e006wdbeb950321c2f0be@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------E9F2F3131502DE" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12232 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------------E9F2F3131502DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17.07.2006, 21:56, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On 7/17/06, Yanis Batura wrote: >> .a'u doi velcli ga'inai ca lo nu do co'a sipna kei do punji lo xejykre= be >> do ga'u je'i ni'a lo ckagai > Notice that: > (1) do punji lo xejykre [zo'e] ga'u lo ckagai > (2) do punji lo xejykre lo gapru be lo ckagai > mean different things. In (2), {lo gapru be lo ckagau}, which fills the > x3 of punji, indicates the location where the beard is placed. In (1), the > location where the beard is placed is not indicated. {ga'u lo ckagai} > does not fill the x3 of {punji}, it indicates the location where the event > {do punji lo xejykre [zo'e]} takes place. Thank you, Jorge. I was aware of the place structure of {punji} and deliber= ately made this slight mistake for the sake of brevity. Besides, {punji} be= nefits only the upper surface; we can't say "to put something under somethi= ng" as easily. :) mi'e .ianis. --------------------- Lojban: A Language With *Intelligent* Design ------------E9F2F3131502DE Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 17.07.2006, 21:56, Jorge Llambнas wrot= e:

> On 7/17/06, Yanis Batura&nb= sp;<ybatura@mail= .ru> wrote:

>> .a'u doi velcli&= nbsp;ga'inai ca lo nu do co'a sipna kei&= nbsp;do punji lo xejykre be

>> do ga'u je'i ni'a = lo ckagai

> Notice that:

> (1) do punji lo xejykr= e [zo'e] ga'u lo ckagai

> (2) do punji lo xejykr= e lo gapru be lo ckagai

> mean different things. In&n= bsp;(2), {lo gapru be lo ckagau}, which = fills the

> x3 of punji, indicates = ;the location where the beard is placed. = ;In (1), the

> location where the beard&nb= sp;is placed is not indicated. {ga'u lo = ckagai}

> does not fill the x3&n= bsp;of {punji}, it indicates the location whe= re the event

> {do punji lo xejykre [= zo'e]} takes place.

Thank you, Jorge. I was aware of the place structure of {punji} and deli= berately made this slight mistake for the sake of brevity. Besides, {punji}= benefits only the upper surface; we can't say "to put something under some= thing" as easily. :)

mi'e .ianis.

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