From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jul 12 09:50:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 59443 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2006 16:50:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jul 2006 16:50:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2006 16:50:25 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G0htK-0001T2-5y for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:48:50 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G0hr6-0001SA-Nz; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:46:34 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G0hqe-0001Ql-OF for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:46:04 -0700 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G0hqc-0001Qa-PE for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:46:04 -0700 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id d.37c.7b32157 (29673) for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37c.7b32157.31e6813f@wmconnect.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:45:51 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_37c.7b32157.31e6813f_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 11501 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-archive-position: 12151 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Subject: [lojban] singular vs. plural X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=d4XkBCxYvOPlwUKZ_zrdYMaQbbZ8mEl8OIm1al1KIKVVgy9vvA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26578 --part1_37c.7b32157.31e6813f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/12/2006 4:22:34 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > Maxim Katcharov wrote: > > I don't suggest that a language would not function without plurals, > > but that it's odd that the line was drawn between 1 and 2. Without an > > explanation for this, one would think that there are languages out > > there that have a pervasive plural that makes itself known between 2 > > and 3, for example. > > There are such languages. See: > for some examples. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > But are there any languages that distinguish between low-number, e.g., perhaps 1 through 5, and high-number, greater than 5? IOW, where the 'singular'/'low-number' category includes more than just 1? Many languages have duals, but do any of them have no singular? stevo --part1_37c.7b32157.31e6813f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 7/12/2006 4:22= :34 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:


Maxim Katcharov <maxim= .katcharov@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't suggest that a language would not function without plurals= ,
> but that it's odd that the line was drawn between 1 and 2. Without= an
> explanation for this, one would think that there are languages out
> there that have a pervasive plural that makes itself known between= 2
> and 3, for example.

There are such languages. See:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_number> for some exampl= es.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


But are there any languages that distinguish between low-number, e.g., = perhaps 1 through 5, and high-number, greater than 5?  IOW, where the = 'singular'/'low-number' category includes more than just 1?  Many lang= uages have duals, but do any of them have no singular?

stevo
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