From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jul 19 09:08:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 54025 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2006 16:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2006 16:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2006 16:00:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3Dw9-00075a-IS for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:26:09 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3Dvf-000753-9Z; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:25:40 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3DvF-00074o-3t for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:25:13 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.182]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3DvD-00074h-HQ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:25:12 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m51so338185pye for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.90.20 with SMTP id s20mr1234094pyl; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.14.17 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560607190825t35c8d3c8yc165f9e6a5027c12@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:25:09 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20060719150615.85848.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560607190728ya92e976n7bb2e53d2f5923c1@mail.gmail.com> <20060719150615.85848.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 12246 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=8BPUHnP367dwKvoOWKCk8VLRJK4ejY4yfch-t9eXx3dnvRhfRQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26672 On 7/19/06, John E Clifford wrote: > Interesting. I haven't thought about what to do with numerical quantifiers yet -- they don't > arise for the present problem, which is just singular vs. plural. I didn't really mean to bring in numerical quantifiers in any significant way. Remove them and the same question arises: "the boys carried the chairs to the garden" cannot be split into only two cases, d and c, to evaluate its truth. (Or if it can, then d-true would always entail c-true, so defining "true" as distinct from "c-true" would seem pointless.) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.