From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Jul 09 15:05:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26309 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2006 21:53:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2006 21:53:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2006 21:53:09 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzhD9-0007El-6b for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:53:07 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzhBy-0007DX-Ag; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:51:56 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzhBY-0007DM-02 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:51:28 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzhBX-0007DF-NE for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:51:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 14:51:27 -0700 Message-ID: <20060709215127.GD18983@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <6810593590.20060706212536@mail.ru> <2d3df92a0607080934o7411e6efi151639c9e7d3c9e3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0607080934o7411e6efi151639c9e7d3c9e3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-archive-position: 12033 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: xalbebna X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=JoZXm5qLYGQww22mt7waAjA6o8g32OFodkTurtkm0pHgLWVLYQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 26460 On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 06:34:44PM +0200, HeliodoR wrote: > > B: .a'u doi patfu da jimpe lo du'u de xalbebna kei ta'i ma > > > You can express these rather metalinguistic B's and P's easily. > {by lu [bridi] li'u} is equivalent to "B: [bridi]". According to whom, exactly? > Moreover, I think You meant {da jimpe lo du'u da xalbebna}, one > realizes that one is drunk. True. > > P: xu do viska ta po'u re ninmu .i ganai ta simlu lo ka vomei > > ninmu kei > >da gi .e'e da xalbebna > > > {ta} (I may include an 'AFAIK' again) is normally used for objects > near to the listener but the speaker not. {tu} is safer. No; objects or locations near to the speaker. The listener is irrelevant. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.